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Can Starmer’s upbeat note drown out the donation scandal? w/ Zoë Grünewald and Simon Kuper

2690.262 - 2705.653 Simon Kuper

And he says, we're going to have massive rules on what he calls the moralization of politics. And so, for example, you never used to have to have receipts. You say, oh, I spent 100 euros on this, and they would refund it to you. There was no limit for what you could spend for lunch. So you'd go for massive, you know, five-course lunches.

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