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Can Starmer’s upbeat note drown out the donation scandal? w/ Zoë Grünewald and Simon Kuper
Zoë Grünewald
I think you need to offer a little bit more than just, look, there are, you know, cranes in the sky and planning reform and, you know, You know, it has to be a little bit more, I think, for the average person to feel that their changes are materially different.
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