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Can Starmer’s upbeat note drown out the donation scandal? w/ Zoë Grünewald and Simon Kuper

2628.004 - 2649.193 Simon Kuper

So I just don't see that you could get millions of people. I mean, it happened briefly under Labour with Corbyn, the kind of three-pound members who brought Corbyn to power. I don't see it as a durable thing. So I think that we just need to go to a system of massive rules... which we have never had in British politics, limiting what you as a politician or civil servant can do.

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