Can Starmer’s upbeat note drown out the donation scandal? w/ Zoë Grünewald and Simon Kuper

1989.943 - 2014.956 Simon Kuper

You don't. So a lot of what political parties do is try to screw the donors. So often with the Conservative Party, you have this cohort of libertarian blokes in the city. Think of Crispin Odie or Paul Marshall. And these people, they genuinely want low tax, they hate the EU, they want no regulations, and they don't like any rules because they think rules don't apply to people like me.