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Can Starmer’s upbeat note drown out the donation scandal? w/ Zoë Grünewald and Simon Kuper
Simon Kuper
No, I don't think he's particularly looking for a quid pro quo. And also, you know, if you're a rich person and you like politics and you're kind of a lord, you like hanging around the political scene, you have a pastor down in the street, often you just want to be involved. Yeah. And the people who run the show think, well, Why are we going to bring you in?
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