Can Starmer’s upbeat note drown out the donation scandal? w/ Zoë Grünewald and Simon Kuper

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So do you think that, because obviously Starmer's... His opinion rating is quite low. I think there is still a problem where people don't understand what he stands for. I was hearing a conversation about him the other day and people talking about how even with Blair, his line was, he's a modern man for a modern Britain. And almost his youth in adopting technology, that was part of the brand.