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Can Starmer’s upbeat note drown out the donation scandal? w/ Zoë Grünewald and Simon Kuper

1498.632 - 1517.218 Coco Kahn

Wow. So it works for media and it also works for our public waterworks. So, you know, get you a policy that can do both. So in your book, you argue that the UK has become more corrupt over the last few decades. I think almost the public are expecting it. So I guess one of the things I'm trying to work out is how corrupt is Britain? You know, marks out of 10.

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