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Can Starmer’s upbeat note drown out the donation scandal? w/ Zoë Grünewald and Simon Kuper
Simon Kuper
Yeah, that's Bannon's. Yeah, it applies to media strategy. So if there's a bad scandal about you, you just create another scandal or five others, five other stories. And the problem with Labour is that this story has stuck for a week, 10 days, and people dig further and then there's a new item of clothing
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