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Can Starmer’s upbeat note drown out the donation scandal? w/ Zoë Grünewald and Simon Kuper

1316.55 - 1332.385 Simon Kuper

And so instead of drawing a sharp contrast between a conservative government where there were terrible cases of corruption, most of all the COVID VIP lane, then you could come in and say, we don't do that. And somebody wants to give you free clothes. And you say, no, we don't accept free clothes. I'd like them, but can't do it.

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