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Can Starmer’s upbeat note drown out the donation scandal? w/ Zoë Grünewald and Simon Kuper

1266.108 - 1284.499 Simon Kuper

So if you're an MP or a civil servant or you could be a doctor or a police officer, you'd use that office to make money for yourself. And that can be completely legal. So we have ex-prime ministers who go off and work for Saudi Arabia, Kazakhstan, try and go into business with China, etc. It's legal, but they're still monetizing their office. So to me, that's corrupt.

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