Can Starmer’s upbeat note drown out the donation scandal? w/ Zoë Grünewald and Simon Kuper

1245.382 - 1265.688 Simon Kuper

Sleaze is a British euphemism because British people don't want to say that there's corruption in Britain because corruption obviously only you have in Brazil or Russia and bad countries. In Britain, we can't have that. So sleaze is a way of making it sound sort of titillating, tabloid headlines. Corruption is, I'm using the World Bank definition, abuse of public office for private gain.