Pod Save America
Billionaires' Bet on Trump Pays Off
Dan Pfeiffer
I think, and this goes to one of the lessons of how trans issues played out in the campaign, which is you have to engage. You can't ignore them. And you have to engage by going bigger. Because when you get to the bigger issues of human rights and civil rights and treating people with tolerance, we have the high side of the argument, both morally, obviously, but also politically.
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