Oxide and Friends
Holistic Engineering with Robert Mustacchi
Bryan Cantrill
but in terms of like, you know, just, so at the same time, you're kind of like in the, the kind of the deepest possible muck in the, the lowest levels of the system in terms of, of early boot, you're also like at the whiteboard in terms of conceiving of, of what the kind of the networking interfaces we want to have for customers and the way we kind of think of that problem. Um,
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