459 - We’re Both Skiing

2355.905 - 2385.156 Karen Kilgariff

I mean, I, so I remember seeing like an article about that, I think when that first broke of like, this is like this controversy. And the reason like it sticks in my mind is because you're saying that the program she joined was from Boy Scouts of America. Yeah. Which, if you have ever seen Leave No Trace, which is a documentary about the Boy Scouts of America, it is harrowing and hair-raising.