Housing and Urban Development Secretary Scott Turner details how HUD is partnering with DHS to remove illegal aliens from public housing and block access to taxpayer-backed FHA loans. Get the facts first on Morning Wire.
Chapter 1: What actions are HUD and DHS taking against illegal aliens in public housing?
The Departments of Housing and Urban Development and Homeland Security have teamed up to evict illegal aliens from public housing and cut off their access to taxpayer-supported FHA loans. In this episode, Daily Wire reporter Tim Pearce speaks to HUD Secretary Scott Turner about the effort to reverse former President Biden's lax approach to housing assistance.
That approach allowed illegal aliens to take advantage of taxpayer-supported housing programs. I'm Georgia Howe with Daily Wire Editor-in-Chief John Bickley. It's Saturday, April 5th, and this is a weekend edition of Morning Wire. The following is an interview between Daily Wire reporter Tim Pierce and U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Scott Turner.
Chapter 2: Why are tariffs important to the Trump administration?
Mr. Secretary, thanks for making the time to talk to us today. My first question, President Trump obviously announced a ton of tariffs, his Liberation Day tariffs. What was your reaction to that?
Thank you, Tim. It's great to be with you. You know, President Trump, he campaigned on tariffs. He talks about tariffs every day. And so those that are surprised by this decision haven't really been paying attention in our country. President Trump is an American first president. He's an America first leader. And so he cares about American people. He cares about trade in our country.
And on a global stage, he just wants, and we all want, Fair trade. 77 million people voted for President Trump, and they know that this change was coming. And so right now, you know, it's hard. We're in an economic transition in our country. There's discomfort. But, Tim, discomfort brings growth. And I think that's what's going on in our country right now.
When you talk about Liberation Day, President Trump, under his leadership, literally is setting America free from the grips of other foreign global economies that have held literally us captive for all of these years. And so now, you know, it's reciprocity. If they're going to send tariffs on us, we send tariffs on them. And this is beneficial for the American people.
And so right now, it seems hard. Right now, it seems difficult. But we will not only survive this, but I think we'll thrive through it in the days ahead.
I want to move now to you and Secretary Noem at DHS have partnered in this mission to get illegal aliens out of public housing. Can you explain a little bit of how this process is going to work, HUD and DHS working together?
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Chapter 3: How is HUD ensuring taxpayer dollars benefit American citizens?
Yes. So as you alluded to, Secretary Norman, we signed a partnership, MOU, if you will, to ensure that American taxpayer dollars are going to American citizens as it pertains to HUD funded housing. Previously in the Biden administration, there were horrible, irresponsible immigration laws broken. border security laws.
And so you have 12 plus million people coming over our borders, and they were prioritizing illegal aliens over American citizens. And so this MOU ensures that taxpayer dollars will go for American citizens that are living in HUD-funded housing. And so they've done a great job securing the border. Secretary Nome, President Trump, and all of our partners in the country
But now it's how do we protect the resources that we have and ensuring that they go to the American people, in particular as it pertains to housing that's funded by HUD.
Do we know how many illegal aliens are currently in public housing?
we don't know the exact number of illegal aliens in public housing we do know that there's nine million total residents in public housing government-funded subsidized housing but we also know 59 of illegal alien families use at least one of the welfare services in our country which costs us about 42 billion dollars a year so 42 billion dollars of
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Chapter 4: What challenges exist in tracking illegal aliens in public housing?
taxpayer money are going towards welfare type programs for illegal aliens. And so, you know, this is a big reason why we signed this MOU. It's a big reason why we also did the FHA revised residency requirement order that we sent the other day to keep mortgages that are insured by taxpayers to go to American citizens and no longer to illegal aliens.
And so while we don't know the number, we are putting these things in process to control the resources and protect American taxpayer dollars.
And I read a New York Post article that mentioned the 9 million residents in public and subsidized housing. But part of the reason that the Post article said that we don't know how many of those are illegal is because of bad information sharing between the various local and federal agencies, I would guess. Yes. Do you know how that gets fixed?
So we're putting financial controls in place now, and information sharing is a top priority here. Just like, and I'm going to go back to the MOU that we have with Secretary Noem, that's a personnel issue. It's a technology deal that we're signing with them so that we have people inside the agency working together
to make sure that we have the proper data of who's living inside of HUD funding housing. And so that's a priority for us going forward. And we do know there's about 24,000 ineligible members in HUD housing. And these are household members who marked non-contendant on a residency requirement, which was part of the application, which the Biden administration was allowing to happen.
And so we are on top of that to get control of who is living inside of HUD funding housing. priority for us.
So I want to go now to the FHA part of this. How does the FHA process work for illegal aliens? I feel like a lot of Americans would look at that and be like, how is this legal?
Right. And so What we did with the FHA rule that you're alluding to is we removed the non-permanent residence category, which was used by the Biden administration. And this allowed illegal aliens to use federal taxpayer resources to purchase a home. And so we removed that category out of the FHA mortgage-backed HUD-funded money because this was allowed.
And that's how illegal aliens were able to secure mortgages. But that will no longer be the case going forward.
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