Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 536 - The Program (feat. James Fox)
Matt McCusker
It was before that. But we were, I just started thinking about it because there was all, it was all these like, you know, there's these like Congress meetings and all these people. And it was like the line that, I don't know if it was from that or someone said it, but it's like, why would these people put their credibility at risk for no reason?
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