Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 536 - The Program (feat. James Fox)
James Fox
Before that, it was OSAP. But in any case, I asked him. It went on for 10 years. It was never meant to go public. But again, people had protested from the inside from excessive secrecy and walked some evidence out of the Pentagon onto the front page of the New York Times. And it went on for 10 years. It was found out in like 27 at the end of 2017.
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