Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast
Ep 536 - The Program (feat. James Fox)
James Fox
I mean, like, they make a mockery of our fastest jets. I mean, you could just talk to David Fravor about that, 2003 off the coast of San Diego. So... And I think the big secret is they don't know what it is. I mean, they know it's engineered, right? They know it's technological, but there's a psychic component to it as well.
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