LNP504 The politics of intellectual shame

3669.171 - 3694.84 Meredith Whittaker

And we can, you know, we can date it to whenever, right? Signal as the integrated app was 2013, but, you know, Red Phone, Text Secure predated that. And this is, you know, there's no iPhone. Jabber, like, is the competition, right? It's like web client-based chat. There's no, you know, people aren't carrying smartphones. There isn't, WhatsApp doesn't exist. iMessage doesn't exist.