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#459 – DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters

16399.179 - 16419.629 Nathan Lambert

I think OpenAI's statement, I don't know if you've seen the five levels, right? Where it's chat is level one, reasoning is level two, and then agents is level three. And I think there's a couple more levels, but it's important to note, right? We were in chat for a couple of years, right? We just theoretically got to reasoning. We'll be here for a year or two, right? And then agents.

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