#454 – Saagar Enjeti: Trump, MAGA, DOGE, Obama, FDR, JFK, History & Politics

11130.458 - 11151.11 Saagar Enjeti

Well, see, I think a lot of this podcast has been steel manning it because Sam is a big character matters guy. Like he focuses a lot on Trump's personality. By the way, I'm like you. I've listened to Sam Harris for years. I bought his meditation app. So nobody's going to accuse me of being some Sam Harris hater. I listened to him for way before, long before even Donald Trump was elected.