Lex Fridman Podcast
#449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History
Graham Hancock
But the other thing is that there is a presence within the ayahuasca brew, and she is present both in ayahuasca and in Yahé. And that's one of the reasons why the shamans say that actually the master of the process is the ayahuasca vine, not the leaves. It's as though the vine has harnessed the leaves to gain access to human consciousness.
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