#445 – Vivek Ramaswamy: Trump, Conservatism, Nationalism, Immigration, and War

7746.394 - 7771.694 Vivek Ramaswamy

Yeah, so look, I think that let's just get the self-interest of each party on the table and be very transparent about it. From everyone's perspective, you know, they think the other side is the aggressor or whatever. Just get it on the table. Russia is... concerned about NATO shifting the balance of power away from Russia to Western Europe when NATO has expanded far more than they expected to.