#445 – Vivek Ramaswamy: Trump, Conservatism, Nationalism, Immigration, and War

4906.869 - 4926.982 Vivek Ramaswamy

When I say the last best hope, I mean in this cycle, the last best hope that we have for dismantling that bureaucratic class. And, you know, I think that I'm also open about the fact that it's going to take, this is a long run project, but we have the next step to actually take over the next few years. That's kind of where I land on it. I mean, you talked to him, I guess, a few weeks ago.