#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy

2232.635 - 2259.772 Annie Jacobsen

It's very difficult to get out of this Catch-22 conundrum that, you know, we need nuclear weapons to keep us safe. That is the real enigma because the other guys have them, right? And the other guys have sort of more sinister ways of using them, or at least that's what the nomenclature out of the Pentagon will always be when anyone tries to say we just need to really think about full disarmament.