Lex Fridman Podcast
#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy
Annie Jacobsen
Like, Oh my God, it's big brother. Well, One of the lead engineers on that, Pat Bilken, is someone I talk to regularly because we talk about surveillance a lot because he thinks about it a lot because he has kids now.
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