#419 – Sam Altman: OpenAI, GPT-5, Sora, Board Saga, Elon Musk, Ilya, Power & AGI

929.225 - 958.537 Sam Altman

So Brett and Larry were kind of decided in the heat of the moment over this very tense weekend. And that weekend was like a real roller coaster. It was like a lot of ups and downs. And we were trying to agree on... new board members that both sort of the executive team here and the old board members felt would be reasonable. Larry was actually one of their suggestions, the old board members.