Lex Fridman Podcast
#417 – Kimbal Musk: The Art of Cooking, Tesla, SpaceX, Zip2, and Family
Lex Fridman
And there's been a bit of a push and pull between you and Elon in terms of levels of optimism about deadlines and so on, timelines about when we'll arrive at the destination. I like that you said it's a journey.
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