#410 – Ben Shapiro vs Destiny Debate: Politics, Jan 6, Israel, Ukraine & Wokeism

7414.981 - 7433.734 Ben Shapiro

And when you talk about the universities, I'm not going to blame conservatives for the failure of the universities because they haven't been present in major positions at universities since effectively the late 1960s. And you can go read Shelby Steele's work on this where he talks about how he used to be – he's now a conservative – black person. He was a liberal black person at the time.