Lex Fridman Podcast
#410 – Ben Shapiro vs Destiny Debate: Politics, Jan 6, Israel, Ukraine & Wokeism
Ben Shapiro
I don't like it when American leaders – it's weird for me to say this, but I'm not a huge fan of the we're in it to protect democracy kind of rhetoric because, frankly, we are allied with many, many countries that are not democracies, and that's not actually how foreign policy works. We should, as an overall – 30,000-foot goal, advance democracy and rights where we can.
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