#410 – Ben Shapiro vs Destiny Debate: Politics, Jan 6, Israel, Ukraine & Wokeism

2579.808 - 2594.361 Ben Shapiro

And I'm separating that off from like the inherent content of what they say, because obviously what Trump says is is more divisive just on like the raw level. I mean, if he's insulting people as opposed to Joe Biden doing MAGA Republicans, like if I were to just if I're an alien come down from space and look at these two statements, I'd say this one's more divisive than this one.