The Enduring Enterprise Pt. 2, with Devin DeCiantis and Ivan Lansberg

746.371 - 772.776 Devin DeCiantis

I mean, I think they're inextricably intertwined, certainly at this age and stage in my career. You know, they're inseparable. Although I will say, you know, to the extent that we have personal lives outside of our professional lives, our most authentic selves will align those elements of your person that may be distinct from what's useful in your work. but it ought not to run across the grain.