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And when I was able to do that substitution, I was able to move more freely from the vantage point of an artist, because an artist wants to create value all the time, in my opinion, but they're not looking at sustainable value over time. And I was putting a lot of things of value that were winning awards and people love, but there was no business model and not excess energy was coming back.