Honestly with Bari Weiss
They Tortured Him for Years. Now They Rule Syria.
Michael Moynihan
They're looking for answers. You describe in your book, and I've talked to you about it in the past, is... They're looking for a very specific answer and they'll beat you until they get it. So is the purpose just sadism? No. Because if they're looking, I mean, you can say no, no, no. And then when you say, yes, I'm a spy, they couldn't possibly believe that. Yeah, of course they can. They do?
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