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Honestly with Bari Weiss

They Tortured Him for Years. Now They Rule Syria.

1034.965 - 1059.493 Michael Moynihan

They're looking for answers. You describe in your book, and I've talked to you about it in the past, is... They're looking for a very specific answer and they'll beat you until they get it. So is the purpose just sadism? No. Because if they're looking, I mean, you can say no, no, no. And then when you say, yes, I'm a spy, they couldn't possibly believe that. Yeah, of course they can. They do?

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