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Simon Sebag Montefiore: History Is Not Over
Simon Sebag Montefiore
And, you know, the Israeli nation is a very recent creation, and it has its own characteristics, as we all know well. The Palestinian... nation, whether these people, these ultra-nationalists in Israel like it or not, now exists. It exists. And there's no point in deluding oneself that it doesn't exist. And it exists. It's not going anywhere. The Israeli nation exists. It's not going anywhere.
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