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Simon Sebag Montefiore: History Is Not Over
Simon Sebag Montefiore
And the rest were Christian and Muslim. Most of them were Arab. And he went there. and he saw the poverty of the Jewish community, which was literally almost like beggars. But the Islamic community was also extremely poor, exploited by its rulers, who were mainly former slaves who had become pashas and become powerful Ottoman officials. And he had a religious moment.
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