US demands Panama 'reduce China's influence' over canal

2831.863 - 2853.736 John Morgan

I think that's helpful. But what I'm saying is, think about what we're saying here. Imagine going into a room of physicists and saying ultimate reality is love, light, logos, life, right? They're going to look at you and they'll either, well, that's very nice. It's a platitude and they don't really believe it. But they act it out in their life. But that's the point I want to make.