Global News Podcast
The Global Story: Does Trump’s return threaten the future of Nato?
Mark Rutte
But we will spend more because otherwise... Are you worried he might turn his back though? No, I'm not because it won't come to that. And I don't want to spend more because of Donald Trump. So he's right that we have to spend more. Absolutely. He was right. He is still right. But when you look at the facts, we should not need Donald Trump to decide to spend more on defense.
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