616. How to Make Something from Nothing

2539.266 - 2560.928 Adam Moss

When I would talk to him about that, I said, well, you don't sound like that was very important. And they said, it's not about the thing I'm making. It is really about the work. I just get up every day because I like or I need more than I like to work in this way. And the end point is not that relevant to me. And I just thought this was bullshit. And I thought it was bullshit over time.