418: Phobias, Be Gone!

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And by the way, that hope message that you were just sharing, David, I think that became self-evident with the anxiety hierarchy and the third message. imaginal exposure. I think Rhonda was really shifted into a different hopeful place because she saw her scores coming down. And I think that that really allowed her to also push through and do that actual driving on her own.