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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

4045.387 - 4065.294 Nilay Patel

Can I actually just make the comparison to sampling and how that played out? Because you lived it very directly. I watched it as a young copyright lawyer, and it seemed like the thing that got us through that was this is a pretty closed ecosystem, right? There's only so many producers. There's only so many labels and the number of labels is just getting smaller.

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