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Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

3976.236 - 3989.202 Harvey Mason Jr.

But the fact that we don't have an understanding of how this moves forward and how we protect creators, whether that's the songwriters you mentioned or people that just had catalogs from 20 years ago, we're not going to have good, clean answers until we get those understandings.

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