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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

3336.768 - 3356.241 Harvey Mason Jr.

For all the reasons I just said, the importance of music and the ability for us to tell stories and change hearts and minds, I think the human component to that is really, really dang important. So a little nervous that we haven't got it sorted out, but I'm also optimistic, to be honest, Nilay, because... Human creators are not like computers.

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