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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

2871.618 - 2893.309 Harvey Mason Jr.

Nilay, you are a smart guy. You're asking me all the questions that I ask myself, and I'm going to come get you to work with me, man. You know how to think about this stuff. But it is really, really top of mind for me and for our team as to how do we continue to be relevant. Because if you do the same thing over and over again, it's not cool. No one's going to take it.

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