Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

2461.916 - 2483.345 Nilay Patel

There's a whole complicated story to be told about Paramount and all that over there. But Disney's a little more, it's very complicated. There's literally the plot of succession is embedded in me just mentioning Paramount. Disney obviously has Disney Plus. They've got Hulu. Was that what you were looking at? Like this is better distribution to a younger audience. It's more stable.