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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey Mason Jr.

1896.741 - 1919.751 Nilay Patel

Whether that's Lil Nas X. ages ago, whether that's Cowboy Carter and Beyonce this year, it feels like we don't quite want to draw these lines anymore, but we need them in order to have things like the Grammy Awards or have enough awards to give out instead of one award for song. All music. Is that something you're actively talking about?

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