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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Why Mark Zuckerberg wants to end the smartphone era

1385.677 - 1405.249 Ian Mitchell

It's mind-blowing to see the kind of infrastructure that's been built to facilitate scamming at scale. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of scam centers all around the world. These are very savvy business people. These are organized criminal rings. And so once we understand the magnitude of this problem, we can protect people better.

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