Why every company wants a podcast now

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And Tim basically said he's not sure he wants to do any of those things anymore because he feels like he used to be able to do interesting stuff because he wanted to. And now it all just feels like a big grind. And so I wonder, as you talk about with politicians and so on, if we're going to see them start to be really choosy and strategic about where they go and who they talk to.