Decoder with Nilay Patel
Why every company wants a podcast now
Nick Quah
Whereas Trump, and here I want to sort of, before I move into this like caveat that maybe we're just talking about him specifically being very good at this, but the whole hanging out thing is, really works. And the whole hanging out thing contributes to the sense that I assume a lot of American voters were looking for about like, that person is a real person.
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