Decoder with Nilay Patel
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it
Matt Pearce
So I actually, as in my capacity as a Guild president and as a between jobs journalist right now, actually spent the last couple of years in a legislative fight in California with Google and Meta and actually Amazon, too, because we were advancing some legislation along with some of the publishers to make Google and Meta give back some of their advertising dollars to newsrooms, because obviously journalism industry in all its guises has been in a
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